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Ill Nino responds to Civil Unrest Tour vs Otep Controversy

Posted by Morgan Ywain Evans on Tuesday, March 24, 2015 at 10:22 AM (PST)


Alright y’all. Getting a late start here today. I was babysitting so a photog/ex could go shoot a Swans show for me and freakin’ wow…kids tire you out more than a metal show. In case you aren’t up to speed the internet exploded over Otep allegations against the singer of a low budget Slipknot rip off Terror Universal , He is said to have violently grabbed her crotch in a huge violation of personal space while drunk. Read the full exchange of statements from Otep, the wife of Terror Universal’s singer and the tour promoters HERE.

Long story short is Otep says she was told ahead of time Terror Universal weren’t going to be on the tour. The Civil Unrest tour organizers say she breached contract and is drumming up this mess to get more money, pretty much as bold a claim as saying someone assaulted you if it isn’t true.

Otep Shamaya responded online with:
If it didn’t happen why did security remove him from the bldg? Why were they kicked off my tour the night it happened? 
I make a damn fine living in this band. Also my work as a Voice Over Actor (the HOBBIT) & an author. I don’t need to extort anyone for $ ha

Good response and succinct.

Even if dude was drunk and didn’t intend or mean what Otep said occurred, it doesn’t mean no harm was done. But contracts aside-I know honestly people who say Otep can be a hard ass. HOWEVER, In the numerous times I’ve interviewed her she’s been  extremely thoughtful, outspoken and great. I cannot believe that person would leverage a tour contract dispute by sensationalizing the issue of invasive physical activity against women , especially when combating it is the backbone of many of Oteps songs!!

Not to mention , it’s a competitive fucking  industry and you have to be hard sometimes especially in metal where chicks get pushed around if they don’t want to be “the hottest chick in metal” stereotype and push their art foremost over their tits (not that I am a prude about sex. It’s their choice). But  if the Terror Universal band was not supposed to be on the same tour as Otep but added on later how is THAT not a breach in the civil unrest tours part? Some people are saying the smaller band would be booted off if a bigger one issues such demands but not necessarily and CERTAINLY not if Otep was really offended. She stands on principle.

Ill Nino  have since issued this statement in the aftermath of all this ugliness. Looks like Kittie is replacing the departing feuding bands. I have no gripe with the great bands still on the bill, especially 36 Crazyfists who put out my fave record of 2015 so far. But I will say I think the response of the tour officials shows major lack of objectivity and so I will henceforth write about these bands only once they are out on whatever tours they follow Civil Unrest up with. It is distasteful. Maybe I’m biased for various reasons but something feels off here.

ILL NINO does not condone any forced act of violence or sexual nature towards any human beings, nor will we tolerate violations of one’s personal space. This also goes for cyber-bullying, or making demeaning comments towards ANYONE on social media. We strongly support equality for all.

We would like to draw closure by stating that the CIVIL UNREST TOUR will continue without participation from either OTEP or TERROR UNIVERSAL. We’re looking forward to hitting the road, reuniting with our fans and friends, and also sharing the stage with our tour brothers, and sisters, KITTIE & 36 CRAZYFISTS. Stay tuned, more bands to be added!!”

In addition, it is good that Terror Universal have at least posted the following on their Facebook:


Seriously, there is so much vile trolling out there from fans on all sides. YOLO, y’all. Try and be better people and not resort to verbal violence. Anyway, I gotta get back to this Stoneburner record, some good herb and maybe some American Horror Story: Coven re-runs to lift my spirits and make me feel clean again. Where is the unity?


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