Interview: All Out War – Mike Score talks “Dying Gods”, living real metalcore

Posted by Morgan Ywain Evans on Tuesday, June 2, 2015 at 9:42 PM (PST)
Photo by Matt Slater

Photo by Matt Slater

For as long as I can remember, All Out War have been the band who can shut up any conversation about crossover “not working”, get a metalhead or hardcore kid to think differently in the face of the undeniable onslaught or remind even the most violent prone, anger processing pit cowboy that the songs they brawl to should still be about something. NYC Bowery Electric release show ought to be nuts.

Mike Score, one of my all time favorite people in the scene, checks in to deliver the knowledge on the much anticipated return DYING GODS. Here’s where to order Dying Gods from All Out War:

And now check out our chat BELOW. \m/

Mike, good to talk. This record is so heavy and has the classic sound but can go toe to fuckin toe with any band today. What has kept the vision in tact over the years? Thank you, Morgan. We just are into what we are doing. There never has been a vision that I know of or can put my finger on. We have bands that influence us like Carnivore, Kreator, Leeway, and Bolt Thrower and we try to bring our take in and create something heavy. I guess in term of keeping the vibe alive, it’s just the love of the music. The writing and recording of Dying Gods was a great experience and we are working on the follow up right now.

I remember some people were startled to learn over the year you’ve taught history. Um, have they read your lyrics?!! haha, but really that’s kind of why I write about metal and hardcore AND politics every day cuz it is all social studies only with a fuckin’ circle pit! Thoughts?

I’ve been teaching for a while now, but long before I was a teacher I was interested in history. History, religious themes, socio-economic injustice, and human apathy have always been topics that have intrigued me and are the major themes in the lyrics of All Out War. I always have been into bands that have something to say, that’s why I was drawn to hardcore.

How did the creation of this record come about? And the title “Dying Gods”?

We got back together with the For Those Who Were Crucified line up with the intention of just playing This Is Hardcore in Philadelphia in 2013. Things just clicked. We got some more offers and then decided to start writing. The writing went great and our friend Clint from Chicago does the label Organized Crime, so he offered to put it out. As far as the title, Dying Gods signifies, not only the death of religion, but also nations, leaders, celebrities or anything held up by the mindless masses and worshiped as a God. The whole thing is crashing down around us, but we don’t see it. We are distracted by trivial things that, at the end of the day, do not really matter. Look at social media and the things people are talking about. The government and the powers that be get over on us while we debate over the latest celebrity, argue over religion, or spit out ignorance.

Looking back on when All Out War, Hatebreed, Beneath The Remains, Painmask, Unbalanced, Inner Dam…that classic 90′s show era at The Chance in Poughkeepsie,NY that more people should know about…How did it feel to get back so much venemously electric love from the crowds?

It was an awesome feeling. A time I will always remember. Those shows were always great, but we can’t dwell in the past. I don’t want to live in the past. There is too much nostalgia. People need to get off their ass and create now. Go to shows now and support what’s out there NOW!! I’m sick of hearing about the past. It was a great time, no doubt about it, but there is so much more to do and so much more to say. I always hate when people say, “I use to be into that.” Or “The scene is dead.” No it’s not, it might be dead for you, but not for me.

Great point and so glad to hear you champion that belief. I totally agree. What are your plans for the band at this point?

We have a lot of things happening. We just played Rain Fest in Seattle and now we are gearing up for our record release shows in Poughkeepsie and NYC. After that we got a show in Connecticut with the Cro-Mags and then This Is Hardcore in Philadelphia. In August we head to Europe for a bunch of dates. We hope to record a full length at some point in the late summer/early fall.

What do you think is a trend in hardcore that people got really wrong?

Thinking hardcore was all about being a tough guy. If you went to shows just to fight, you should have stayed home.


How do you approach a show onstage at a place like, say, The Acheron as opposed to a bigger theater?

The same exact way. I always liked the small shows better, but the big shows are cool too. 8. What is a really funny memory of the band that might show you arne’t just a buncha tough guys? That’s a good question. There are a lot of funny things. Especially, when we went out with Buried Alive and Reach the Sky. I’m trying to think of just one and I can’t. Most of them involved staying at crazy peoples’ houses or apartments. I’m going to stop now before someone reads this and gets offended. Hahaha

Some of the bands who ruled that were really active when you were coming up like Crisis or Stigmata have come and gone, though members remain in the scene in other projects. Any band you remember as being fucknuts insane that never got their due? I mean besides all my bands of course, hahahah.

There are a lot of them, especially from that era. Starkweather always comes to mind, they should have been way bigger.


Darkside is another one and also Disassociate. There were so many great bands that never got there due. People are stupid.

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